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Entreri · Nov 15, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Since when do titles have to make sense? If I buy and ID 10k gold items, that doesn't make me wise or even remotely knowledgeable about game mechanics, yet I'm a "Source of Wisdom". If I buy a couple million gold worth of tickets, and lose all of them on 9 rings, how does that make me both Lucky AND Unlucky? If I do the Remains of Sahlaja run 30 times to get max SS and LB rank, have I really "proven" myself to be a great Sunspear and Lightbringer? Arguing to close something because it doesn't make sense in a FANTASY game is silly.

In the next update... paragons vs robots vs Al Gore. Skyy High's vision for GW2. Unfortunately, we can't argue it because that would be 'silly'.

Entreri · Nov 15, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28

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Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It

I don't know who you're talking about, but I've never had to run from anyone or die the times I've tried doing FFF.

Explain what you were doing all the time then. Then explain how that makes your character a 'Savior of the Kurzicks'. (For extra credit, explain how doing what you were doing makes your character a 'Legendary Survivor'). Being the 'door' is WORSE then what I said. You make my point stronger.

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Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It

And no, you aren't being know as SotK for running away. You get the faction by doing deeds for the Kurzicks. Pure and simple. How you decide to do the deed, unless it's truly negatively impacting the game as a whole, is of no consequence.

What deeds? You just rezoned constantly, right? And took the Kurzick guy's money for quest complete. How did this save the Kurzicks?

If you got amber for the faction you got in this method and sold it, you devalued the amber of people who actually play the game.

Getting the title in this manner devalues to zero the Savior of the Kurzicks title for anyone who actually got it via AB. People see that title now and they think 'That guy just uses exploits like FFF to get titles'. That's what SotK means now.

Abnaxus · Nov 15, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Entreri

Getting the title in this manner devalues to zero the Savior of the Kurzicks title for anyone who actually got it via AB. People see that title now and they think 'That guy just uses exploits like FFF to get titles'. That's what SotK means now.

You need to check figures before speaking.

At an optimistic rate of 15k faction per hour, FFF or HFF requires nearly 700 hours to max the title.

I'm sure that in the world there are some idiot nerds who don't have anything to do in their lives but staying in front of a keyboard hitting the same keys the whole day for months.

But if my hopes in the mental sanity of GW players are true, acquiring a title with FFF or HFF will always be something limited to a very small minority of nerds.
I don't think it will become so popular, as I said in one of my earlier posts the amount of time required is 40-50 times what required for LB or SS for instance.

And anyway, is there a saviour who maxed only with ABs and has never - never - gained any points from FFF?

The main problem from a PvE-only player's point of view are the PvE only skills linked to the title, this is simply a wrong game design from A.net.

The Meth · Nov 15, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

As long as there are PvE skills linked to the faction ranks, skills that have a very significant effect on gameplay, any nerfing at all to any means of attaining faction is something I don't care for. Really this reflects on how stupid of a decision Anet made adding PvE skills linked to those title tracks, but as long as its there with its incredibly high requirements faction farming needs to stay. If anything AB's should get a boost to get people to do them more often. If PvE skills were made to be not linked to title progression I would consider nerfing FF in some way. Besides, lets face it AB's are so pathetic there isn't any real 'prestige' attached to winning them, don't go crying over any 'devalueing' of the title, it was worthless in the first place.

Snow Bunny · Nov 15, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Entreri

People see that title now and they think 'That guy just uses exploits like FFF to get titles'. That's what SotK means now.

It's always meant that.

SotK just means that for a good 700 hours, you have have no life.
It's the most grinding activity you can do in guild wars.

It shouldn't be nerfed for that reason though.

By the way, no one has AB'd SotK.

jezz · Nov 15, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by skanvak

((I made a search and only a complain topic got out))

The FFF is not an acceptable way of gainning faction point and it is an obvious exploit of the system. The last time I tried it, it was done with 3 heroes so that people only have to sit and wait.

Why is it an exploit : because the quest is validated before the quest is even taken. Therefore the aim of the quest is NOT really fulfilled. The luxons/Kurzick that should spawn and be wipe out are simply avoid.

As the people don't do the mission technically they are not helping their faction, they are stealing the point. They don't contribute to moving the fontier BUT are the most rewarded for no effort.

How to nerf it : quite simple, the quest should update only after it is taken, theirfore the ennemy will spawn making it harder to run. Finally, a point should be validated only if the ennemy that spawn are killed. This way it would not be possible to run the quest, that is only fair.

If playing the game resume to sit and do something else while people farm for you, the title is meaningless => less willing to play. I mean this is a real problem!

Best regards,

Skanvak
Lord of "La maison des Drakkens"

Edited by Celestial Beaver: Title Clarified

NOT acceptable to you maybe..its a repeatable quest that has been there from beginning of Factions...i never fully understand how people can make these threads..what other people do with there time is there business..
/not signed

Age · Nov 15, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

The same here for me /notsigned.

Sergeant of Marines · Nov 16, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

It's always meant that.

SotK just means that for a good 700 hours, you have have no life.
It's the most grinding activity you can do in guild wars.

It shouldn't be nerfed for that reason though.

By the way, no one has AB'd SotK.

Go go go Sins Alliance before it disbanded!

Master Sword Keeper · Nov 16, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

/notsigned

Okay why are you complaining again? It's a good way to get some faction in a short time, Have a good think then try it again.

azizul1975 · Nov 16, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05

to skanvak, it's simple :

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T DO IT